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Player death in an open world dungeon in Alpha-1.[1]

We don't have deleveling, instead what we have is experience debt. Now the more experience debt you accrue, the greater the detriment to your character; not to the point where you can not get out of the debt. There will always be a way forward to remove your debt.[2] – Steven Sharif

Death penalties do not apply to objective-based events (such as caravans, guild wars, and node sieges).[14]

There will not be death penalties applied to event-based deaths. The penalties are in the outcome of the event. So your number of deaths is likely going to impact your ability to win that particular event and that's going to be the penalty. This is it to encourage players to opt in to the events right because the more participation we have the more fun it can be; and we understand that the community at large- there's already a risk versus reward component to these events. We don't need to stack on additional risk versus reward to inhibit kind of- to increase the barrier to entry for players who may not be as interested.[14] – Steven Sharif

Death penalties do not differ between PvP and PvE, but this is subject to change.[15]

Death by drowning is possible.[16]

Respawn lore

Death's Bastion pre-order pack cosmetic freehold skin.[17]

There is a storyline that relates to how and why characters respawn and the locations in which they respawn. This will be revealed as players explore the game.[18]

Removing corruption

Cemetery concept art by Tad Ehrlich.[19]

The primary means to remove corruption is through death. Multiple deaths may be necessary to remove all corruption.[20][21]

  • Dying removes a significant portion of a player's corruption score.[22]
  • Gaining experience will also slowly reduce a player's corruption score.[20]
    That creates a fun kind of experience for the bounty hunters to try to catch you while you're working it off.[20] – Steven Sharif
  • A quest may be utilized to reduce the player kill (PK) count of a corrupt player in order for them to accumulate less corruption score in the future.[23][22]
    • This is a design shift from a religious quest being used to directly reduce the corruption score.[24]
  • Corruption duration is reduced in military nodes.[25]

Player flagging

The open world PvP flagging system is designed to deter people from griefing other players.[26]

  • Players can participate in open world PvP with one another without having to resort to murder.[27]
  • The penalties are intended to be severe enough to deter any type of spawn camping.[28]

pvp flagging diagram.png

There are three levels of flagging for world PvP in Ashes of Creation.[29]

  • Non-combatant (green)
  • Combatant (purple)
    • Non-combatants entering an open world battleground are automatically flagged as combatant and remain flagged for a period of time after leaving that battleground.[29]
    • Players are flagged as combatants if they attack another player when carrying out a forced attack. If the attacked players fight back, they are also flagged as combatants, otherwise the attacked player will remain flagged as a non-combatant.[21]
    • Non-combatants who heal, buff or otherwise interact with combatants will be flagged as combatants.[31]
    • Non-combatants who attack a player using combat pets (or any other player-controlled entities) will be flagged as combatants.[32]
    • Players can kill combatants without repercussions, and are encouraged to do so, since dying while a combatant has reduced death penalties.[21]
    • Players are not able to manually set their flagging status to combatant.[33]
    • Players remain flagged for a period of 90 seconds following their most recent attack on a non-combatant or another combatant.[34]
    • Players cannot log out while flagged.[35]
  • Corrupt (red)
    • If a combatant player kills a non-combatant player, they will be flagged as corrupt.[26]
    • Corruption multiplies death penalties and reveals a corrupt player's location to bounty hunters.[26]
    • A player’s corruption score increases with each non-combatant player killed.[29]
    • If a non-combatant attacks a corrupt player, the non-combatant will not flag as a combatant.[21]
    • Corrupted players may kill bounty hunters without acquiring additional corruption score.[36]
    • There is a 60 second timer to logout while corrupt.[35]

A player may not flag on members of the same party, raid, guild or alliance.[37]

  • Players will be able to opt-in (via a checkbox) to allow their beneficial or non-beneficial AoEs to hit flagged players. If this is checked then AoE heals or damage will affect flagged players. If it is not checked then the AoE will not damage or heal any flagged players, and as such will not cause the caster to be flagged themselves (if they are not already).[38]

If you have that check-box for flagging with your AOEs and heals available then you will flag. If you do not have that box checked then on completion of the skill it will not flag you because the check was made at the start that there was a flagged party member; and then he will not he or she will not receive the beneficial effect as a result or the damage, if it's an offensive spell.[38] – Steven Sharif

Sieges, caravans and guild wars do not use the flagging system.[39]

You're not going to see griefing in the game very often; and that's because our flagging system. The corruption mechanics are based around disincentivizing a griefer or PKer but still offering the opportunity, should the occasion arise, where the benefits outweigh the risk, you have the ability to do so. If you gain corruption, which is killing a non-combatant - a player who is not fighting back basically - if you gain that corruption, your world has changed. It is not going to be a very beneficial place to be and you have the potential of losing your gear. Your combat efficacy decreases based on the amount of corruption you accrue. It is a comfortable balance between player agency and grief and basically removing player agency for other players.[2] – Steven Sharif

Affiliations

An affiliation tree is under development that determines which entities can participate in attacks against other entities within its hierarchy.[40]

There is guild affiliation, there's party affiliation, there's a raid affiliation, alliance affiliation, there's a citizenship affiliation, there's society affiliation, there's religious affiliation. All of these things have some hierarchy; and within that hierarchy there's the ability to participate within certain systems. So for example, if you have a node that has fallen under your vassal state and you're a citizen of the parent node, then you could participate in a siege against the vassal node but if you're a citizen of the vassal node you could not participate as an attacker against the parent node; so there's a hierarchy, unless you were to renounce your citizenship.[40] – Steven Sharif

Full loot

There will not be a full loot (full drop) system in Ashes of Creation.[41]

There will not be a full drop and the reason for that is because you know our intention when it comes to progression within the world is we want it to be meaningful and you know take some investment on behalf of the player; and if even if from a design standpoint we're like yeah but they have to choose to go to the area; we don't want a choice that a player can make where they delete their character so to speak.[41] – Steven Sharif

Artwork

  • 2020-03-28
  • 2020-03-28

See also

References

  1. ↑ Livestream, 28 March 2020 (1:58:24).
  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 Podcast, 23 April 2018 (49:21).
  3. ↑ 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6 3.7 Podcast, 5 May 2017 (43:05).
  4. ↑ Livestream, 19 May 2017 (13:37).
  5. ↑ Ashes of Creation Forums - Former Lineage 2 PvP'er wanting to discuss PvP loopholes.
  6. ↑ a419c5398b542a713545e4f393d67215.png
  7. ↑ Livestream, 27 September 2018 (47:46).
  8. ↑ Interview, 18 July 2020 (27:11).
  9. ↑ 9.0 9.1 9.2 Interview, 18 July 2020 (41:54).
  10. ↑ Livestream, 17 November 2017 (35:20).
  11. ↑ Interview, 11 May 2018 (15:41).
  12. ↑ Interview, 27 April 2017 (9:28).
  13. ↑ Interview, 11 May 2018 (3:43).
  14. ↑ 14.0 14.1 Livestream, 22 December 2020 (1:13:51).
  15. ↑ Livestream, 15 May 2017 (36:23).
  16. ↑ Livestream, 28 July 2017 (50:22).
  17. ↑ Ashes of Creation Store: Death's Bastion.
  18. ↑ Podcast, 11 May 2018 (51:39).
  19. ↑ Livestream, 9 July 2018 (20:41).
  20. ↑ 20.0 20.1 20.2 Interview, 18 July 2020 (44:35).
  21. ↑ 21.0 21.1 21.2 21.3 21.4 Interview, 27 April 2017 (0:17).
  22. ↑ 22.0 22.1 Interview, 19 July 2020 (30:51).
  23. ↑ steven-removing-corruption.png
  24. ↑ Livestream, 4 June 2018 (2:18).
  25. ↑ pvp corruption duration.png
  26. ↑ 26.0 26.1 26.2 pvp flagging.png
  27. ↑ Livestream, 12 May 2017 (24:52).
  28. ↑ pvp camping.png
  29. ↑ 29.0 29.1 29.2 MMOGames interview, January 2017
  30. ↑ PvP.jpg
  31. ↑ Livestream, 17 November 2017 (29:45).
  32. ↑ Livestream, 31 October 2018 (44:12).
  33. ↑ Livestream, 30 November 2020 (1:05:22).
  34. ↑ steven-flagging-duration.png
  35. ↑ 35.0 35.1 steven-flagging-logout.png
  36. ↑ Interview, 27 April 2017 (1:18).
  37. ↑ pvp flagging lockouts.png
  38. ↑ 38.0 38.1 Interview, 8 July 2020 (1:05:27).
  39. ↑ flagging.jpg
  40. ↑ 40.0 40.1 40.2 40.3 40.4 40.5 40.6 40.7 40.8 Interview, 11 May 2018 (58:07).
  41. ↑ 41.0 41.1 Livestream, 26 July 2019 (1:22:50).
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