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Alpha-2 Ranger skill tree user interface (WIP).[1]

What you're seeing at a high level here is just what you'd pretty much expect of a traditional skill. We're doing something a little more advanced than just like a bottom up structure, because we're being a little bit more free-form in this iteration. This will obviously see more UI iterations in the future, but you'll see a mix of active and passive abilities here. Actives are indicated by their square shape, while the circular ones are representing passives; and one thing to note as well is that these passives are aiming to be a little more interesting than just like, this ability does more damage now, or it has a lower cooldown. We do have some of those too, but the goal with a lot of these passives in addition to that is to allow people to lean into unique play styles. So you'll notice that some of them are are changing your gameplay in meaningful ways; and that's the direction we want to take um player and character customization as a whole.[1]Tradd Thompson

Players receive skill points at specific points as they level.[2] These can be used unlock Active and passive skills in archetype and weapon skill trees.[3][1][4][5][6][7]

  • Skill points accrue at specific XP milestones, such as 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 progress through the level, so as to avoid creating an imbalance with experience debt.[2]
We do have this concept of experience debt that does accrue and we don't want to create an imbalance between skill points acquired versus experience, so we're going to predicate your skill points acquisition based on benchmarks you reach when leveling through a level. So these are going to be at specific points in the level, like one quarter progress, to half progress, to three quarters progress: you're going to get an influx of skill points and then you'll be able to allocate them into your skill tree.[2]Steven Sharif
  • Skill points can be used to unlock universal skills at the expense of unlocking class-specific skills.[8]
  • Respeccing (resetting and reallocating) adventuring skills may require travelling to a specific location rather than being able to be done on-the-fly.[9][10]
  • Augments do not cost skill points.[11] It was previously stated that certain augments will have more expense required on the skill point side.[12]
info-orange.pngSome of the following information has not been recently confirmed by the developers and may not be on the current development roadmap.
  • It will not be possible to max all skills in a skill tree.[7]
  • In terms of skill progression, players can choose to go "wide" and get a number of different abilities, or go "deep" into a few specific abilities.[13]

Primary skills

Alpha-2 Bard primary skills.[14]

If from the eight archetypes whatever you choose as your secondary, you're going to receive a choice of augments that relate to some core ideal of that class. A tank is about controlling the battlefield, is about surviving. The mage is about dealing damage and elements and ability in AoEs. The rogue is going to be about stealth and critical damage. So those augments are going to to play towards those identities.[15]Steven Sharif

Primary skills (class abilities) are based on a player's archetype.[16][17]

Active skills

Players can build their characters with the active skills they want on their action bar (hotbar).[25][26][27]

Some people like to have a very minimalistic number of hot bars. They don't need necessarily to have three, four, five hot bars that are available; but some people do like that: They want to have all their items listed on their hotbar as well as their abilities, as well as as their mounts, as well as anything that they can essentially interact with as an icon.[31]Steven Sharif
  • Players are not given skills as they level up, they must choose what skills they take.[13]
  • There is no spellbook requiring memorization.[32]

There will be multiple hot-bars that you obviously have available, because you're going to have consumables, you're going to have active skills and whatnot. But the number of active skills are not going to overwhelm necessarily the character and be irrelevant especially at certain stages.[25]Steven Sharif

Respeccing skills

Respeccing (resetting and reallocating) adventuring skills may require travelling to a specific location rather than being able to be done on-the-fly.[9][10]

I am still conflicted on whether or not I want to allow respecs on-the-fly. I believe that respecing should be done at a particular location that requires a bit of transit and some strategic thinking ahead of time about the encounters that you're expecting, but respecing your class should be relatively easier obviously with that constraint of being at a particular location.[9]Steven Sharif
  • Swapping between multiple saved specs may be able to be done after a suitable cooldown period.[33][34]
  • Respeccing artisan skills is going to be more difficult than respeccing adventuring skills.[9]

Class progression

Class progression in Ashes of Creation proceeds as follows:[18]

  • Players receive skill points as they level. These can be used to level up skills within their skill tree.[7]
    • It will not be possible to max all skills in a skill tree.[7]
When thinking about how augments work, they represent the core function of the archetype that you're then getting augment schools for.[40]Steven Sharif

Universal skills

Universal skills, such as active blocking, sprinting, and active dodging, are able to be unlocked by all archetypes based on a universal skill progression tree.[43][8][21]

We are currently implementing, for the purposes of Alpha-2, a universal stamina system that all archetypes share. When it comes to active block, sprint, and dodge: those will be a part of a universal skill progression tree that players can choose to invest skill points into; and those skill points will share with their archetype active ability and passive ability skill points as well. So, if they're going to divest themselves of further progress within their archetype in lieu of investing in the Universal skill tree, they will have access to benefits that those universal skill tree progressions provide; and some of those benefits do include stat bonuses when utilizing those universal skills. Some of them include different types of effects that can only be granted the player through the universal skill tree as well, such as the ability to potentially parry an attack, or something along those lines. We'll be talking about the universal skill tree somewhere probably mids summerish timeframe, or late summerish timeframe, because it's still actively being developed; but the idea is to have that be an additional knob of customization that influences the way your character plays.[43]Steven Sharif
  • Universal skill progression is intended to provide synergy will all archetypes.[44]
Because it's a universal progression tree, the intent is to provide interactions with all the archetypes. So, it's not going to be specifically more beneficial for one archetype over the other. The intent is that each of the archetypes will have some synergy interaction benefit to their general kit identity through the universal skill tree.[44]Steven Sharif
  • Skill points can be used to unlock universal skills at the expense of unlocking class-specific skills.[43][8]
Q: Will each archetype be equally efficient with universal skills, like dodging and active blocking, or will each of them have their own versions and flavors, or will some people be more powerful than others?
A: We want to provide a progression path that's shared for those universal skills across all the archetypes. So when you spend skill points, you can choose to spend them within the universal skill set and unlock particular ability types for the universal skills as well, but you will be spending them from the skill points that you would normally spend within your class-specific skill tree; and this offers again a different wheel of customization that I think is interesting.[8]Steven Sharif

Weapon skills

Weapon skills grant passive skills, proc effects, and status conditions, rather than usable skills on a player's action bar.[47] The more skill points that are allocated to the weapon tree, the greater a player's weapon familiarity with that specific weapon type.[48] This influences things like the number of attacks, attack speed, and increased chances of proc effects from carrying out basic attacks with that weapon. These procs may offer synergy with the player's active skills.[49][50][51][47][52][53][54][55][56][57][5][6][58][59][60] This synergy also applies to active skills from other characters.[50][4]

Weapon skill trees are skill trees that you can unlock and invest points into as you continue to develop your experience with certain weapon types, certain weapon groups, like a dagger; and when you're doing your basic combo attack with those weapons, which is universal for all classes- anybody can use any type of weapon because stats can be changed on these weapon types through crafting and through drops- there will be certain proc effects that live on the weapon skill tree as you advance in them; and those proc effect effects will be able to interact with your archetype skills because they will have promotion type effects that occur when they synergize with one another.[49]Steven Sharif
Our approach is not going to be providing skills through weapons. It's going to be providing skills through classes.[52]Steven Sharif
Q: With weapon leveling, does it mean you will level per weapon type or will it be per weapon; and if I get a better wand, for example, will I still have to level that up again?
A: It's weapon type. So if you start advancing within the wand class of weapons, you will persist that progression across all wands that you acquire.[48]
Let's say a dagger has some slashing effects that bleed the target or that cripple the target... Every time you attack you have a chance to proc that effect. That effect then can synergize with what your active skills tree has available to it. So let's say your backstab deals 30 additional damage to a bleeding target. If you attack with your main weapon first and the target gets the bleed proc off and you do your backstab skill then you're synergizing your effects.[6]Steven Sharif

Weapon progression

In-game achievable sword and polearm 3D renders.[66]

Power creep is a balance issue... When it comes to gear progression specifically, the idea is to create an open market that is not heavily dependent on soulbound items; and having many item sinks and gold sinks within that economy that allows for the potential degradation and loss of assets within that closed economy; and not introduce items from the market that companies put in from a pay-to-win perspective or from a pay-to-convenience perspective that undermines the economy that players have built. That is a huge mistake that companies have made in the past and that lends to the imbalancing of what designers maybe have actually balanced well.[67]Steven Sharif

Weapons have their own progression paths.[58][68]

Ashes of Creation is all about providing many progression paths... The reason why we don't like the term endgame is because with the amount of progression that's available with the amount of diversity and player agency that impacts the world... We want the weapon system [to] add an element of that as well... You can determine special effects that proc from currently the combo system; you can determine ancillary effects that proc based on enchantment types; you can power stone weapons to add different either elemental types of damage and/or energy that play rock-paper-scissor with player defenses ... and then you can skill tree out how those effects that are granted ... you can make them better you can branch them off into a different direction.[60]Steven Sharif

Passive skills

All these passive abilities: mana regen, attack damage, critical hit damage, health regeneration, defense mitigation, maximum health: A lot of different changes from the passive side of things and these are based on what archetype you've chosen.[71]Steven Sharif
Skill Icon Origin Description
Caravan Trail Speed Bonus Trail Speed Bonus.png Caravan Minor speed boost for travelling on a simple trail.[73]
Healing Received Healing Received.png Utility skill Increase the amount of healing received by 10%.[74]
Instrument Drum Instrument Drum.png Bard Choose to play your melodies with a drum.[14][75]
Instrument Fiddle Instrument Fiddle.png Bard Choose to play your melodies with a fiddle.[14][76]
Instrument Flute Instrument Flute.png Bard Choose to play your melodies with a flute.[14][77]
Monologue Monologue.png Bard Increases the number of charges of Quick Wit by 1, but increases the cooldown by 2.[78]
Resonant Weapon Icon.Resonant Weapon.png Bard Casting any non-melody ability will grant you 1 stack of Resonance. Stacks up to 10 times. Resonance
Shake it Off: Unyielding Shake It Off.png Tank Shake It Off breaks all disabling effects on the caster.[14]
Weapon Mastery: Bows Icon.Weapon Mastery: Bows.png Ranger Reduce the cooldown of Barrage and Scattershot by 3 seconds upon hitting an enemy with a weapon combo finisher.

See also

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  73. Trail Speed Bonus Description.png
  74. Alpha-1 screenshot.
  75. Instrument Drum Description.png
  76. Instrument Fiddle Description.png
  77. Instrument Flute Description.png
  78. Monologue Skill Tree Description.png