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Players must choose a path in the [[Artisan classes|artisan]] skill tree for each [[Character|character]]. Within each of the three [[Artisan classes|parent artisan paths]] ([[Gathering]], [[Processing]] and [[Crafting]]) there are different [[Professions|professions]]. A [[Character|character]] may only ever [[Artisan mastery|master]] one of these parent paths.{{livestream|29 April 2022|1h13m00|qYuL-GrMmRM}}{{livestream|26 July 2019|1h09m46|KNxy9Xsx_Dc}}{{livestream|24 May 2017|32m07|KCr9yh2Y97I}}
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|+ [[Artisan progression]].{{quote|roshen-mastery.png|link=https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/1179894053974847508}}{{video|2023-11-30|37m12|W6dhCycYAJQ}}{{web|https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2023-07-01-development-update-with-freehold-preview|Development Update with Freehold Preview.}}
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!scope="col"| [[Artisan level]]
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!scope="col"| [[Artisan certification]]
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!scope="col"| [[Profession limits|Profession limit]] per character
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!scope="row"| 1-10.{{quote|margaret-artisan-level-1.png}}{{video|2023-11-30|9m36|W6dhCycYAJQ}}
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| [[Novice]].{{quote|roshen-mastery.png|link=https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/1179894053974847508}}{{livestream|2023-06-30|50m07|K-OyTa9pgQk}}
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| 22.{{quote|roshen-mastery.png|link=https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/1179894053974847508}}{{video|2023-11-30|37m12|W6dhCycYAJQ}}
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!scope="row"| 10-20.{{podcast|2023-12-03|14m14|XoMzEluahR8}}{{video|2023-11-30|9m36|W6dhCycYAJQ}}
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| [[Apprentice]].{{quote|roshen-mastery.png|link=https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/1179894053974847508}}
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| 5.{{quote|roshen-mastery.png|link=https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/1179894053974847508}}{{video|2023-11-30|37m12|W6dhCycYAJQ}}
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!scope="row"| 20-30.{{podcast|2023-12-03|14m14|XoMzEluahR8}}
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| [[Journeyman]].{{quote|roshen-mastery.png|link=https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/1179894053974847508}}{{web|https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2023-07-01-development-update-with-freehold-preview|Development Update with Freehold Preview.}}
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| 4.{{quote|roshen-mastery.png|link=https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/1179894053974847508}}{{video|2023-11-30|37m12|W6dhCycYAJQ}}
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!scope="row"| 30-40.{{podcast|2023-12-03|14m14|XoMzEluahR8}}
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| [[Master]].{{quote|roshen-mastery.png|link=https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/1179894053974847508}}{{web|https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2023-07-01-development-update-with-freehold-preview|Development Update with Freehold Preview.}}
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| 3.{{quote|roshen-mastery.png|link=https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/1179894053974847508}}{{video|2023-11-30|37m12|W6dhCycYAJQ}}
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!scope="row"| 40-50.{{podcast|2023-12-03|14m14|XoMzEluahR8}}{{podcast|2023-12-03|2m53|XoMzEluahR8}}
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| [[Grandmaster]].{{quote|roshen-mastery.png|link=https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/1179894053974847508}}{{web|https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2023-07-01-development-update-with-freehold-preview|Development Update with Freehold Preview.}}
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| 2.{{quote|roshen-mastery.png|link=https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/1179894053974847508}}{{quote|steven-mastery-2-branches.png|link=https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/1179893433687625810}}{{video|2023-11-30|37m12|W6dhCycYAJQ}}
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[[File:CLIP2023-11-30-Video-26:21.mp4|thumb|[[Artisan progression|Leveling up]] in the [[Lumberjacking]] [[Profession|profession]] in [[Alpha-2]].{{video|2023-11-30|23m20|W6dhCycYAJQ}}]]
  
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* Within a mastered parent artisan path it is possible to master up to two [[Professions|professions]] per [[Character|character]] (subject to testing).{{livestream|29 April 2022|1h13m00|qYuL-GrMmRM}}
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[[Artisan progression]] occurs based on experience (repetition of tasks) as well as achievements of certain benchmarks within each [[Artisan branches|artisan branch]] ([[Gathering]], [[Processing]] and [[Crafting]]).{{interview|2021-02-7|36m38|RS3e0vuj5lA}} Progression in each [[Profession|artisan profession]] is [[Character|per-character]].{{quote|steven-mastery-cap.png|link=https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/1036392301678829599}}{{livestream|2022-04-29|1h13m00|qYuL-GrMmRM}}{{livestream|2019-07-26|1h09m46|KNxy9Xsx_Dc}}{{livestream|2017-05-24|32m07|KCr9yh2Y97I}}
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** A character will be able to achieve up to tier 3 or tier 4 proficiency in professions that are not mastered.{{livestream|29 April 2022|1h13m00|qYuL-GrMmRM}}
 
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** Based on testing, it may be decided to limit profession mastery certificates to a capped value.{{quote|artisan_mastery5.png|link=https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/comment/203171/#Comment_203171}}{{quote|artisan_mastery3.png|link=https://discordapp.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/606173454231666714}}
 
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** Previously it was stated that with considerable effort a player can master all professions within a mastered parent artisan class.{{quote|artisan_mastery1.png|link=https://discordapp.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/606172688712466482}}{{quote|steven-profession-mastery-all.png|link=https://discordapp.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/606172688712466482}} This was later changed to a player being able to master some but not all professions within a mastered parent artisan class.{{quote|steven-profession-mastery.png|link=https://discordapp.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/737701691859664947}}{{quote|artisan skill tree.png|link=https://discordapp.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/305350537870835714}} This has most recently been changed to the current stance of being able to master up to two professions within a mastered parent artisan class.{{livestream|29 April 2022|1h13m00|qYuL-GrMmRM}}
 
  
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: ''Gathering is a parent artisan path, along with processing and crafting. Within each of the three  parent  paths lies different professions. You may only ever master one parent path. But you may spend time mastering each profession within the parent artisan path.''{{quote|artisan_mastery1.png|link=https://discordapp.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/606172688712466482}}{{ndash|[[Steven Sharif]]}}
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* Artisans start off as [[Novices|novices]] in all professions.{{video|2023-11-30|37m12|W6dhCycYAJQ}}{{podcast|2023-12-03|10m22|XoMzEluahR8}}{{quote|roshen-mastery.png|link=https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/1179894053974847508}}{{video|2023-11-30|37m12|W6dhCycYAJQ}}
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: ''All 22 professions, the players get to be novice of; and then it starts narrowing from there. So, after that you'll only be able to be apprentice of five things. You can be a journeyman in four things. You can be a master in three things; and you can be a grandmaster in two things. So you'll need to narrow, but you can also diversify to support the professions that you want to first push further in.''{{video|2023-11-30|37m12|W6dhCycYAJQ}}{{ndash|[[Kory Rice]]}}
  
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: ''Becoming a master Crafter or a master Processor or a master Gatherer should be a significant time investment and resource investment; and because of that it should also be something that when you achieve that status it's like people on the server know who you are.''{{interview|20 July 2020|18m47|B_2SFbN8PP8}}{{ndash|[[Steven Sharif]]}}
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* Progression to each "tier" within a profession grants [[Artisan skill points|skill points]] that can be utilized in a character's [[Artisan skill tree|artisan skill tree]].{{video|2023-11-30|26m38|W6dhCycYAJQ}}
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** [[Artisan certification quests]] must be completed to gain proficiency in that tier of artisan progression.{{video|2023-11-30|16m40|W6dhCycYAJQ}} Completing certification unlocks benefits for that profession, such as [[Artisan tools|artisan tools]] for [[Gathering|gathering professions]] and [[Recipes|recipes]] for [[Crafting|crafting]] professions.{{podcast|2023-12-03|17m10|XoMzEluahR8}}{{video|2023-11-30|36m00|W6dhCycYAJQ}}
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** There are [[Artisan limits|limits]] to the number of professions at each certification tier across the three artisan branches.{{quote|roshen-mastery.png|link=https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/1179894053974847508}}{{quote|steven-mastery-2-branches.png|link=https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/1179893433687625810}}{{quote|artisan_mastery5.png|link=https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/comment/203171/#Comment_203171}}{{video|2023-11-30|37m12|W6dhCycYAJQ}}{{quote|artisan_mastery3.png|link=https://discordapp.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/606173454231666714}} For example: a character may only ever be a [[Master]] in up to 3 professions and [[Grandmaster]] in up to 2 professions across all artisan branches.{{quote|roshen-mastery.png|link=https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/1179894053974847508}}{{quote|steven-mastery-2-branches.png|link=https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/1179893433687625810}}
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** [[Grandmaster]] artisans can max out their entire profession skill tree, but a character can only be a grandmaster of up to two professions.{{podcast|2023-12-03|6m23|XoMzEluahR8}}
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** Achieving an artisan certification in a profession also implies that the character also achieved any lower-tier certifications up to that point.{{quote|roshen-profession-clarification.png|link=https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/1179939592040878210}}
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: ''If you are grand master in that profession you can max out the entire tree. But you can only grand master 2 things.''{{podcast|2023-12-03|6m23|XoMzEluahR8}}{{ndash|[[Kory Rice]]}}
  
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[[Artisan progression]] within the artisan tree occurs based on experience (repetition of tasks) within a branch and also via achievement of certain benchmarks within each branch.{{interview|7 February 2021|36m38|RS3e0vuj5lA}}
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* Choosing a specific path in the skill tree allows the player an opportunity to specialize in a certain area. This encourages player [[Artisan classes#Artisan supply chain|inter-dependency]], enhancing the artisan experience.{{livestream|2017-05-10|6m12|UnQ1Cve-bXE}}  
  
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* Players can dabble in all professions at a "beginners" level before they decide to master a particular pathway.{{interview|27 March 2020|5m25|TzD_u7C8NxA}}
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* [[Artisan progression|Progression]] within [[Artisan classes|artisan classes]] does not directly relate to progression in a character's [[Adventuring class|adventuring class]], but there are requirements that take into account dangers, locations,  [[Artisan toolsets|toolsets]], and [[Surveying|surveying]] options that are dependent on [[Adventuring level|adventuring level]].{{livestream|2023-04-07|1h00m55|faeK_vQnnm0}}{{livestream|2022-10-28|1h32m38|d_P7AK22_18}}{{livestream|2020-07-31|1h31m11|3tWezxjwGE8}}
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* Choosing a specific path in the skill tree allows the player an opportunity to specialize in a certain area. This encourages player [[Artisan classes#Artisan supply chain|inter-dependency]], enhancing the artisan experience.{{livestream|5 May 2017|6m12|UnQ1Cve-bXE}}  
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** Characters gain [[XP]] as they progress their [[Professions|professions]].{{podcast|2023-12-03|15m05|XoMzEluahR8}}{{video|2023-11-30|36m00|W6dhCycYAJQ}}
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** It should be expected that some artisans will have significantly higher artisan level than their [[Adventuring level|adventuring level]].{{podcast|2023-12-03|15m05|XoMzEluahR8}}{{livestream|2023-04-07|1h00m55|faeK_vQnnm0}}
  
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* Masteries aren’t just about making an [[Items|item]]. They grant many things, including [[Titles|titles]], access to items, bargains, and [[Quests|quests]]. {{quote|artisan_mastery4.png|link=https://discordapp.com/channels/256164085366915072/256164085366915072/606175020892291102}}
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: '''Q: In regards to character level and artisan level. We know that currently there are two separate things. That being said, what prevents a player from staying level one and partying up with a level 50 player to then gather level 50 resources in the high zones? That way, anyone who wants to take those resources will have to kill the gatherer who is level one and get a large amount of corruption for killing a level one as a level 50.'''
  
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: ''Players will have the opportunity to kind of dabble in all of the professions at a very beginners level and then you know that kind of gives them an understanding of what that profession feels like and then allows them to kind of pinpoint the direction that they want to go in to master particular professions.''{{interview|27 March 2020|5m25|TzD_u7C8NxA}}{{ndash|[[Steven Sharif]]}}
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: '''A:''' ''Gathering higher level resources requires significant advancement within a particular profession for that gatherable resource. So, if I'm a Miner and I want to access the highest possible mineral, I need to be a master miner; and in order to achieve the master minor status I am going to be gaining adventuring level experience through that process, because many of those quest lines, many of those achievements are facilitated through quest lines. Some of those quest lines interface with adventuring difficulties that are out in the wild at certain levels. So that's going to predicate me- that's going to be a predicate for me to achieve a certain level in order to complete some of these quest lines and achieve that master status. So you will you will likely not see the ability of a level one alt character having the access to high level mineral mining, or any other type of gatherable out there.''{{livestream|2023-04-07|1h00m55|faeK_vQnnm0}}{{ndash|[[Steven Sharif]]}}
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: ''When we reference not being masters of all that doesn't mean you're not a master within your own one of the three artisan types, which is you know crafter or gatherer, processor. You will be a master of one of those, you will not be master of the other two.''{{livestream|26 July 2019|1h09m46|KNxy9Xsx_Dc}}{{ndash|[[Steven Sharif]]}}
 

Revision as of 00:56, 7 December 2023

Artisan progression.[1][2][3]
Artisan level Artisan certification Profession limit per character
1-10.[4][5] Novice.[1][6] 22.[1][2]
10-20.[7][5] Apprentice.[1] 5.[1][2]
20-30.[7] Journeyman.[1][3] 4.[1][2]
30-40.[7] Master.[1][3] 3.[1][2]
40-50.[7][8] Grandmaster.[1][3] 2.[1][9][2]
Leveling up in the Lumberjacking profession in Alpha-2.[10]

Artisan progression occurs based on experience (repetition of tasks) as well as achievements of certain benchmarks within each artisan branch (Gathering, Processing and Crafting).[11] Progression in each artisan profession is per-character.[12][13][14][15]

All 22 professions, the players get to be novice of; and then it starts narrowing from there. So, after that you'll only be able to be apprentice of five things. You can be a journeyman in four things. You can be a master in three things; and you can be a grandmaster in two things. So you'll need to narrow, but you can also diversify to support the professions that you want to first push further in.[2] – Kory Rice
  • Progression to each "tier" within a profession grants skill points that can be utilized in a character's artisan skill tree.[17]
    • Artisan certification quests must be completed to gain proficiency in that tier of artisan progression.[18] Completing certification unlocks benefits for that profession, such as artisan tools for gathering professions and recipes for crafting professions.[19][20]
    • There are limits to the number of professions at each certification tier across the three artisan branches.[1][9][21][2][22] For example: a character may only ever be a Master in up to 3 professions and Grandmaster in up to 2 professions across all artisan branches.[1][9]
    • Grandmaster artisans can max out their entire profession skill tree, but a character can only be a grandmaster of up to two professions.[23]
    • Achieving an artisan certification in a profession also implies that the character also achieved any lower-tier certifications up to that point.[24]
If you are grand master in that profession you can max out the entire tree. But you can only grand master 2 things.[23] – Kory Rice
  • Choosing a specific path in the skill tree allows the player an opportunity to specialize in a certain area. This encourages player inter-dependency, enhancing the artisan experience.[25]
Q: In regards to character level and artisan level. We know that currently there are two separate things. That being said, what prevents a player from staying level one and partying up with a level 50 player to then gather level 50 resources in the high zones? That way, anyone who wants to take those resources will have to kill the gatherer who is level one and get a large amount of corruption for killing a level one as a level 50.
A: Gathering higher level resources requires significant advancement within a particular profession for that gatherable resource. So, if I'm a Miner and I want to access the highest possible mineral, I need to be a master miner; and in order to achieve the master minor status I am going to be gaining adventuring level experience through that process, because many of those quest lines, many of those achievements are facilitated through quest lines. Some of those quest lines interface with adventuring difficulties that are out in the wild at certain levels. So that's going to predicate me- that's going to be a predicate for me to achieve a certain level in order to complete some of these quest lines and achieve that master status. So you will you will likely not see the ability of a level one alt character having the access to high level mineral mining, or any other type of gatherable out there.[26] – Steven Sharif
  1. ↑ 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 1.12 1.13 roshen-mastery.png
  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 2.7 2.8 2.9 Video, November 30, 2023 (37:12).
  3. ↑ 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 Development Update with Freehold Preview.
  4. ↑ margaret-artisan-level-1.png
  5. ↑ 5.0 5.1 Video, November 30, 2023 (9:36).
  6. ↑ Livestream, June 30, 2023 (50:07).
  7. ↑ 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 Podcast, December 3, 2023 (14:14).
  8. ↑ Podcast, December 3, 2023 (2:53).
  9. ↑ 9.0 9.1 9.2 steven-mastery-2-branches.png
  10. ↑ Video, November 30, 2023 (23:20).
  11. ↑ Interview, February 7, 2021 (36:38).
  12. ↑ steven-mastery-cap.png
  13. ↑ Livestream, April 29, 2022 (1:13:00).
  14. ↑ Livestream, July 26, 2019 (1:09:46).
  15. ↑ Livestream, May 24, 2017 (32:07).
  16. ↑ Podcast, December 3, 2023 (10:22).
  17. ↑ Video, November 30, 2023 (26:38).
  18. ↑ Video, November 30, 2023 (16:40).
  19. ↑ Podcast, December 3, 2023 (17:10).
  20. ↑ 20.0 20.1 Video, November 30, 2023 (36:00).
  21. ↑ artisan mastery5.png
  22. ↑ artisan mastery3.png
  23. ↑ 23.0 23.1 Podcast, December 3, 2023 (6:23).
  24. ↑ roshen-profession-clarification.png
  25. ↑ Livestream, May 10, 2017 (6:12).
  26. ↑ 26.0 26.1 26.2 Livestream, April 7, 2023 (1:00:55).
  27. ↑ Livestream, October 28, 2022 (1:32:38).
  28. ↑ Livestream, July 31, 2020 (1:31:11).
  29. ↑ 29.0 29.1 Podcast, December 3, 2023 (15:05).
    30. Retrieved from "https://ashesofcreation.wiki/index.php?title=Template:Artisan_progression&oldid=105780"